tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986595816238301046.post8417262192619404087..comments2024-03-28T05:28:28.567-04:00Comments on Editorial Anonymous: Did You Not Read the First Three Books?Editorial Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06294247222893767117noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986595816238301046.post-65010480668337588442021-08-05T02:09:59.054-04:002021-08-05T02:09:59.054-04:00kobe shoes
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I think you pretty much summed up why.nonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00415222406280230021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986595816238301046.post-57054537814802196362008-09-05T15:03:00.000-04:002008-09-05T15:03:00.000-04:00ITA! The first three books were mediocre. Characte...ITA! The first three books were mediocre. Characterization was unrealistic, plotting long and dull-- and people expected the last book to be a work of genius?<BR/><BR/>Stephanie Meyer has never been the most excellent writer in the world. So why are they shocked suddenly that her book sucks?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986595816238301046.post-38747745067695296312008-09-05T05:16:00.000-04:002008-09-05T05:16:00.000-04:00Say what you will, but "Whoops, I guess I was actu...Say what you will, but "Whoops, I guess I was actually in love with your left ovary all this time" has to count as one heck of a plot twist.Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11347186925268530799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986595816238301046.post-25401194361671482052008-08-23T19:10:00.000-04:002008-08-23T19:10:00.000-04:00Re: edits in general...A-list, best-selling author...Re: edits in general...<BR/><BR/>A-list, best-selling authors must have tons more leeway than other authors in this aspect of publishing. It seems when a publisher pays 400k for ONE book (what Little, Brown is rumored to have paid for Breaking Dawn) the chance of the author/editor relationship being equal is dismal, at best. <BR/><BR/>Spend that kind of money on a book and you've got to keep that author happy. And rather than producing a more streamlined book -- which would take more editing, more work on the author's part, parts of a book which would ordinarily make an editor go, WTF? get overlooked.<BR/><BR/>(I'm not suggesting that this is what happened to SM's latest book -- as you stated, we have no way of knowing what kind of edits DID get implemented. But I can see where this could happen easily. I mean, James Patterson doesn't even write half "his" books, yet he's just released another YA series, oh, the joy...)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986595816238301046.post-69735135348995400602008-08-23T14:53:00.000-04:002008-08-23T14:53:00.000-04:00I haven’t read the books yet, but my stepdaughter ...I haven’t read the books yet, but my stepdaughter has. She absolutely loved them and so did ALL of her friends. So who is angry? Adults or the age group the books were originally written for?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986595816238301046.post-37663886912928764022008-08-23T10:49:00.000-04:002008-08-23T10:49:00.000-04:00Great post, and I love your last line.I just finis...Great post, and I love your last line.<BR/>I just finished her first book, and while I personally think it was badly written, she appeals to a wide audience. <BR/>But I do like that there were no meta-issues to worry about. It's story, pure and simple. It's like beach reading. I don't know...<BR/>I won't be buying any more of her books, or trying to emulate her in any way. But I can understand the appeal.Chris Eldinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11794946908789120139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986595816238301046.post-56439080655412184222008-08-23T10:44:00.000-04:002008-08-23T10:44:00.000-04:00I agree with almost all of your points. But funny,...I agree with almost all of your points. But funny, I've never heard anyone say of Shannon Hale, "Oh, well, she's Mormon, what did you expect?"<BR/><BR/>Add me to the list of Mormon women who say that these books have very little to do with my religion. I was expected to get all the education I could, make a difference in the world, and yes, love my family. Not devote myself to creepy stalker marble-lipped guys...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986595816238301046.post-67370540971860856952008-08-23T09:29:00.000-04:002008-08-23T09:29:00.000-04:00Anonymous 12:14-I know you are. And just for the ...Anonymous 12:14-<BR/>I know you are. And just for the record, I too see great value and nobility in the aspiration to be an outstanding parent, so the family-orientedness of Mormonism is something I admire.<BR/><BR/>But Meyer wanted something more for herself-- she wanted to be a writer-- so I don't quite understand why she didn't want something more for her character. Goodness knows her readers did.Editorial Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06294247222893767117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986595816238301046.post-37715676870803613512008-08-23T09:10:00.000-04:002008-08-23T09:10:00.000-04:00Thanks for answering my quetion, EA. And a very so...Thanks for answering my quetion, EA. And a very soothing, diplomatic answer, I might add. <BR/><BR/>I'm generally even-tempered and happy for anyone's success. I didn't adore the book, but was glad I read it. But those Amazon message boards (not the reviews, per se) were so completely hostile my jaw dropped, and I only read a handful.<BR/><BR/>Have to say I don't agree with your reasoning behind the "baby thing." Bella is not Morman -- kids were never her focus; and part of her sacrifice in choosing to love Edward was that she couldn't have kids with him, and then suddenly, there was one. <BR/><BR/><BR/>--CCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986595816238301046.post-65395730309756900782008-08-23T06:48:00.000-04:002008-08-23T06:48:00.000-04:00I'd resisted buying the first ones simply because ...I'd resisted buying the first ones simply because it's just not my type of story.<BR/><BR/>...now you've got me interested again.Susan at Stony Riverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10385202649291774852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986595816238301046.post-51044455410169189002008-08-23T04:05:00.000-04:002008-08-23T04:05:00.000-04:00Finally, someone has put into words, far more eloq...Finally, someone has put into words, far more eloquent than mine, what I had been thinking about "Breaking Dawn." Was it disappointing? A little, but was it surprising? No. I wasn't surprised at all by the sunshine and roses ending. I was a little surprised that she didn't manage to add in some unicorns or something though... :)Dana Strotheidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04516840486005234468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986595816238301046.post-39004400768577412882008-08-23T00:14:00.000-04:002008-08-23T00:14:00.000-04:00Just for the record, some of us Mormon woman autho...Just for the record, some of us Mormon woman authors are working real hard to have and protect a family AND write narratively and thematically satisfying stories where characters get to grow as people. <BR/><BR/>Please keep an eye out for my manuscript, and kindly disregard the jam stains...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986595816238301046.post-48424170328482405972008-08-22T23:25:00.000-04:002008-08-22T23:25:00.000-04:00"Meyer's idea of a happy ending is not that her ch..."Meyer's idea of a happy ending is not that her character weathers the storm and emerges changed, but that she suddenly realizes she had an umbrella in her bag all the time."<BR/><BR/>Well said.David Macinnis Gillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14676500399960890193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986595816238301046.post-17623201137390713732008-08-22T22:41:00.000-04:002008-08-22T22:41:00.000-04:00Thank you for the breakdown of the 'angry' points....Thank you for the breakdown of the 'angry' points. I haven't read her books yet, but they're on my 'to read' stack - still.Sarah Laurensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09252565450452195395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986595816238301046.post-56575413860381115332008-08-22T22:36:00.000-04:002008-08-22T22:36:00.000-04:00Nice post. The backlash is truly scary. It's all '...Nice post. The backlash is truly scary. It's all 'you wrote a bad book, you go to hell and die'.<BR/><BR/>So she wrote a bad book? From what I can gather, she didn't run over anyone's puppy, she didn't plagiarize and she didn't commit troops to a land war in Asia.<BR/><BR/>I like my characters to see the storm coming, be scared of it, try and flee, then dig deep and face the storm and come out a better/stronger/changed person for it. If a book I read doesn't do that, I close the covers (Radical!) dump book on the floor (Heresy!) and open the next book in the pile.Ebony McKenna.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02724727996270658767noreply@blogger.com