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And, as proof sylvia used the post she links to.<br /><br />It's true that, until there was a public reaction, Justine did not PUBLICALLY disagree with the cover, so sylvia is right.<br /><br />What she said was that, at the time of the LIAR controversy, Justine kept silent until everyone else said something. And that's right. What she DIDN'T say was that Justine liked it, just that, at first, she didn't publically say anything against it and the post made it seem like she was in support of it. That doesn't mean that sylvia still thinks Justine WAS in support of it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986595816238301046.post-68597571791094061182010-01-21T23:55:50.000-05:002010-01-21T23:55:50.000-05:00I will believe this was an oversight when they mis...I will believe this was an oversight when they mistakenly put a person of color on the cover of a book about a white character. While my opinion is that their motive was not to be overtly racist but rather to be profitable, the end result is still racist, hurtful and damaging.<br /><br />Bloomsbury, I'm glad you're changing the cover but you have a long way to go to rebuild he trust. Stay the path and keep walking.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986595816238301046.post-85483500007462065282010-01-21T14:43:51.386-05:002010-01-21T14:43:51.386-05:00Did you see? They're changing the cover: http:...Did you see? They're changing the cover: http://www.bloomsburykids.com/books/catalog/magic_under_glass_hc_306Rose Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10752073931486321348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986595816238301046.post-19984895591455204932010-01-21T14:20:07.754-05:002010-01-21T14:20:07.754-05:00And . . . the cover is being redesigned: http://o...And . . . the cover is being redesigned: http://ow.ly/Z51FAdriennehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01607530400279311428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986595816238301046.post-36683776656910804152010-01-20T20:53:16.108-05:002010-01-20T20:53:16.108-05:00I found this comment from the author saying it wou...I found this comment from the author saying it would "be nice to see a darker girl on the paperback." She also mentions that her cover was created before the LIAR controversy:<br /><br />http://xicanti.livejournal.com/173376.html?thread=909888#t909888Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986595816238301046.post-29547521532895002312010-01-20T20:25:35.681-05:002010-01-20T20:25:35.681-05:00"It's just a stock photo" is no excu..."It's just a stock photo" is no excuse. If they didn't have an appropriate photo and for some reason didn't want to commission one, they should have used a cover illustration that didn't have a girl at all, rather than a misleading one.<br /><br />This issue has been coming more and more to my attention recently, and I find it frustrating in so many ways. I'm an avid reader, and I want my kids to be readers too. I looked at my book collection and realized how unbalanced it was. I want my kids, and myself for that matter, to read about all people, not just white people, so I have been making an effort to purchase books that will broaden the horizons of my library. And you know what? Books about non-white people can be hard to find. At first I thought it was because there aren't as many, and now I know that it is also that these books are being hidden behind whitewashed covers. When I see a book with a white person on the cover, I assume it's a book about a white person.<br /><br />This is NOT OKAY, Bloomsbury, and all other publishers guilty of the same behavior. You are marginalizing people of color, and you are selling short your white readers by assuming they are so insular that you have to lie to them to get their money. Maybe there are people so narrow minded that they won't read a book about someone different from themselves, but why pander to bigots?<br /><br />Knock it off. If your stock of cover photos isn't broad enough, get new ones. It's not that hard.Booklovernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986595816238301046.post-75323752225437274522010-01-20T17:09:03.816-05:002010-01-20T17:09:03.816-05:00I can't beleive Bloomsbury have done this agai...I can't beleive Bloomsbury have done this again. What is wrong with them?<br /><br />My heart goes out to the author - it's her debut, this should be a happy time for her. <br /><br />I hope people don't boycott her book because of this, that would be so unfair as she will be the one that's hurt, not bloody Bloomsbury.Welshcakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11345530288844655569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986595816238301046.post-87029326255115328902010-01-20T17:04:13.865-05:002010-01-20T17:04:13.865-05:00Thank you for this! I saw another blog mentioning...Thank you for this! I saw another blog mentioning this and blogged about it myself yesterday.<br /><br />It's baffling, in the worst possible way that this keeps happening.<br /><br />I don't want to punish the author, so instead of boycotting, I'm urging people to contact Bloomsbury to complain. Loudly and repeatedly. I sent an email yesterday.<br /><br />This kind of thing is so incredibly shameful...:(Rebecca Knighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15214077952378770753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986595816238301046.post-51541878004092578872010-01-20T16:09:17.758-05:002010-01-20T16:09:17.758-05:00Before we rush to judgment, perhaps this was a sto...Before we rush to judgment, perhaps this was a stock photo. Instead of paying for a more expensive photo shoot, publishers - as you well know - use stock photos ALL THE TIME. Maybe a Thai trouser girl wasn't exactly #1 on stock photos searches.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986595816238301046.post-21629379048425704252010-01-20T15:48:26.213-05:002010-01-20T15:48:26.213-05:00Something just dawned on me. I wonder if Bloomsbur...Something just dawned on me. I wonder if Bloomsbury is just bowing to pressure from the powerful book store chains? I'm not trying to let them off the hook but... I do know the number of cover revision's I have done, as a pic book illustrator, based on what the sellers have said they would or would NOT stock. It can be as ridiculous as background colour (don't like pink, too many pink books, want baby blue) to take rubber clown nose off dog, people are afraid of clowns (even though the interiors featured clowns, complete with their red rubber noses) It CAN get nuts at times. I wonder if the sellers can sometimes be responsible for a glut of white girl covers and a mass of publishers too afraid of ticking the large book chains off?Christine Tripphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05058419743726981987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986595816238301046.post-40218081551166656642010-01-20T14:17:29.584-05:002010-01-20T14:17:29.584-05:00*Brown girl hits forehead against palm**Brown girl hits forehead against palm*The Sapphic Housewifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18213748225955505371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986595816238301046.post-69171201724415823762010-01-20T13:19:38.603-05:002010-01-20T13:19:38.603-05:00What I love about this is the fact the EA is bring...What I love about this is the fact the EA is bringing something important to the attention of Bloomsbury: white readers (like me) can and do buy books about characters who aren't caucasian! In fact, some of us are actively looking for more diversity in our reading selections. Put color on the cover, give it a face-out in the YA section and if the jacket flap makes it sound interesting, we'll buy it. Well, I will.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986595816238301046.post-17102391828030659232010-01-20T12:27:28.151-05:002010-01-20T12:27:28.151-05:00Dear Fiona: Please do not march to the till and re...Dear Fiona: Please do not march to the till and register a complaint. If you live in a location where you have indy bookstores available to you, that's great and your very fortunate, but having worked both in publishing and in a big-chain bookstore, there's nothing a cashier (or customer service at a publisher, for that matter) can do about it. <br /><br />(It's like the time I was working in clothing retail and a customer marched up to a cashier and demanded that the cashier call Ralph Lauren, personally, because the customer's pants had shrunk when the customer hadn't followed the washing instructions. The cashier basically said, "Sure. I'll ring him, he's on his yacht right now.")<br /><br />To lodge a complaint, I would hit 'em in their publicity department.<br /><br />http://www.bloomsburyusa.com/contactAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986595816238301046.post-71517315863015440322010-01-19T22:31:18.526-05:002010-01-19T22:31:18.526-05:00Where I worked (I'm a former editor), the desi...Where I worked (I'm a former editor), the designers were required to read every novel they designed, and they worked with the editor to come up with ideas and cover art. Then covers went through jacket committee for approval. Run-of-the-mill authors (i.e. non-celebrity, non-bestseller) did not have approval, but they were kept in the loop and if they really hated a concept or design we wouldn't push it on them. This is at a well respected, very old publishing house, not the biggest but certainly comparable to Bloomsbury. Somebody over there is dropping the ball...yamsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12137479180057978586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986595816238301046.post-14812267788550806652010-01-19T16:06:27.899-05:002010-01-19T16:06:27.899-05:00Faster version of my last comment: it's not en...Faster version of my last comment: it's not enough just to have a baby; it matters who you have the baby with.<br /><br />Too many authors (and too many girls in my hometown) learn that lesson too late.working illustratornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986595816238301046.post-9702315712826963992010-01-19T14:54:55.976-05:002010-01-19T14:54:55.976-05:00Anonymous 5:51 said:
Working Illustrator -- you...Anonymous 5:51 said:<br /><i>Working Illustrator -- you've got to be kidding! Who among us trying to get published can afford to black ball an entire publishing house because we don't like a cover?</i><br /><br />Fair enough, but here's the thing: the power balance in the publishing process is heavily weighted toward publishers. It's their money, so mostly it's their rules.<br /><br />There are really only two points in the process where the writer has any meaningful influence over events: in the creation of the work and in the decision about whose dotted line to sign on.<br /><br />Once you've signed, it's their ball game, which is why that decision matters and why authors need to take things like insanely misguided cover decisions seriously. Covers are the most important sales tool a book has and the most important marketing decision a publisher makes.<br /><br />Look... your book get one shot in the marketplace. <br /><br /><i>One.</i> <br /><br />If it misfires, whatever effort you put into it - years of rewrites, months of edits - goes down the drain and that's it. Game over.<br /><br />Somebody at Bloomsbury - a whole slew of somebodies, most likely - signed off on this train wreck of a cover. The book may succeed despite this fact - plenty of books do, and for the author's sake I hope it does - but the fact remains that this is how they dressed it to send it out into a world where how you look has a tremendous impact on whether you succeed or fail.<br /><br />And in this case, they've done the book the added injustice of hanging the word 'racist around its neck.<br /><br />So yeah, I'd think twice before handing them any baby of mine. Not saying 'never' but I'd have sharp questions and a careful ear for the answers before I jumped.working illustratornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986595816238301046.post-46568718590274586282010-01-19T14:32:56.962-05:002010-01-19T14:32:56.962-05:00Many thanks to all who've responded and thank ...Many thanks to all who've responded and thank you EA for addressing this. I'd like to post the link to a teen book blogger. It just about broke my heart to read her take on all this:<br /><br />http://blackteensread2.blogspot.com/2010/01/open-letter-to-bloomsbury-kids-usa.htmlmythicagirlhttp://razher.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986595816238301046.post-91313826113109564002010-01-19T12:07:14.470-05:002010-01-19T12:07:14.470-05:00ARGHHHH! this is a completel pet peeve of mine! aA...ARGHHHH! this is a completel pet peeve of mine! aAs an illustrator, I read the entire manuscript before I get started on any sketches. My guess is it was a hurried stock photo purchase. BIG BUMMER! Give an artist a job, they'll treat you right!monicaleehttp://www.monicaleestudios.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986595816238301046.post-16723129438967242482010-01-19T10:02:43.159-05:002010-01-19T10:02:43.159-05:00Stacy, sadly I didn't edit DEVIL'S KISS, w...Stacy, sadly I didn't edit DEVIL'S KISS, which I wasn't really aware of in fact as I'm more picture books these days than teenage fiction (it's been a weird career.) But I'm glad to see that the book I did edit isn't the only thing like that out there.Torgohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07220712985495316924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986595816238301046.post-64846629027017378282010-01-19T02:02:44.987-05:002010-01-19T02:02:44.987-05:00Torgo, did you edit Devil's Kiss? Because girl...Torgo, did you edit Devil's Kiss? Because girl of color looking badass with a sword on the cover made me think of that one. Great cover, great book.stacyhttp://www.tupublishing.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986595816238301046.post-18023409781316976742010-01-18T22:21:03.950-05:002010-01-18T22:21:03.950-05:00As a Bloomsbury author (who obviously wishes to re...<i>As a Bloomsbury author (who obviously wishes to remain anonymous) let me just say: Everyone I have worked with, even with my first book, has been more than willing to change the tiniest of details so that I am happy with my covers. I get to weigh in on whether or not someone's hair is loose or braided! So the idea or either Justine or Jacklyn being forced to accept a cover they hate is laughable to me.</i><br /><br />Okay, as ANOTHER Bloomsbury author who has gotten cover art with the message, "here's the final, hope you love it" and been anywhere from delighted to moderately unhappy, and then as tactfully as possible asked for changes to the things I really felt I had to fight for -- and turned a blind eye to those of lesser import -- I have to disagree with this. Maybe some B authors get input on details, but others of us don't. Period.<br /><br />Which puts us in really difficult positions at times like this. How do we defend our publisher or our own books in the face of cries for the whole company's list to be boycotted?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986595816238301046.post-1213896246074029322010-01-18T22:19:51.777-05:002010-01-18T22:19:51.777-05:00Well said, Michael. When we are young (at anything...Well said, Michael. When we are young (at anything) we lack power. This only comes with age and experience. One hundred years ago, this kinda conversation wouldn't be happening because book makers rarely paid much attention to the outside.<br /><br />The most important thing to me (as a fellow writer) is that people buy and read her book. How dreadful that her initial foray into this world is now marred by politics (pointedly correct as they are).<br /><br />I've had people slam one of my publishers; in our country it was the hot topic in the news for weeks and weeks and the media wouldn't let it go (it involved plagerism by a most beloved author and university lecturer) but, for me, the publishing house have been a wonderful crew to work with.<br /><br />As I noted on Justine's blog, for one of my books, the designer had not read the book, just saw the title and dreamed up crap. I understand that the art designers (who, here in this land are all outsourced) rarely read the books they make covers for - they rely on the editors' briefs.TK Roxboroghhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16396099477818776758noreply@blogger.com